{"id":2455,"date":"2025-06-22T21:23:50","date_gmt":"2025-06-22T19:23:50","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.talentdrama.cz\/?p=2455"},"modified":"2025-06-28T09:40:19","modified_gmt":"2025-06-28T07:40:19","slug":"inspirativni-rozhovor-s-doc-vladirem-chrzem-z-naseho-dialogu","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.talentdrama.cz\/en\/2025\/06\/22\/inspirativni-rozhovor-s-doc-vladirem-chrzem-z-naseho-dialogu\/","title":{"rendered":"Rozhovor z Dialogu"},"content":{"rendered":"

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Dialogical Acting is a specific form of active imagination.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Rozhovor s <\/strong>Doc. PhDr. Vladim\u00edrem Chrzem, Ph.D. <\/strong>z Psychologick\u00e9ho \u00fastavu Akademie v\u011bd \u010cR, pedagogem, v\u00fdzkumn\u00edkem a psychologem.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

I met Vladim\u00edr at the Department of Authorial Creativity and Pedagogy at DAMU. We attended Ivan Vysko\u010dil\u2019s Dialogical Acting classes together\u2014he as a psychologist, me as a theatre maker and educator. Later, we happened to keep crossing paths again during meditation sessions in Kol\u00edn or at lectures with Tom\u00e1\u0161 Hal\u00edk in the crypt of the Church of St. Salvator. It felt as if life kept guiding us along similar routes.\n\nAt one point, we even considered creating therapeutic groups focused on authorial creativity. We are both deeply interested in how creativity and artistic making can heal the human soul\u2014its existential depth, the phenomenon of play and creation itself. What is it about play and creative action that is so essential and foundational that it awakens and transforms a person into a living, joyful, and creative being?\n\nPerhaps a human being simply experiences themselves as a creative and acting subject, with an infinite potential\u2014no longer a passive puppet of systems or a plaything of fate, but an active co-creator of the unfolding of the world.\n\nThis is why, in this June issue, we bring you an extended interview with psychologist, academic, educator, and a deeply curious and kind human being Vladim\u00edr Chrz, on the themes of images, dialogical acting, meditation, imagination, psychosomatics, and creation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

V\u00fdb\u011br z rozhovoru:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

„V angli\u010dtin\u011b je to takov\u00e1 slovn\u00ed h\u0159\u00ed\u010dka: let go – let God. Proto\u017ee pokud se na to pod\u00edv\u00e1me ze spiritu\u00e1ln\u00edho pohledu, tak v\u017edycky, kdy\u017e \u010dlov\u011bk v\u011bci pou\u0161t\u00ed, d\u00e1v\u00e1 prostor n\u011b\u010demu, co ho p\u0159esahuje. „<\/p>\n\n\n\n

„J\u00e1 m\u016f\u017eu k sob\u011b zaujmout vztah zevnit\u0159, ale on prost\u011b <\/a>m\u016f\u017ee b\u00fdt iluzorn\u00ed. Takov\u00fd trochu narcistick\u00fd. V\u0161ichni m\u00e1me zidealizovanou p\u0159edstavu o sob\u011b, a to je pr\u00e1v\u011b p\u0159edstava zevnit\u0159. Vnit\u0159n\u00ed zrcadlo. Ale my pot\u0159ebujeme vn\u011bj\u0161\u00ed zrcadlo. Toho druh\u00e9ho. T\u00edm druh\u00fdm taky m\u016f\u017eeme b\u00fdt sami. „<\/p>\n\n\n\n

„F\u00edgl dob\u0159e nastaven\u00e9 \u0161koly je pr\u00e1ce s t\u0159et\u00edm druhem pozornosti, kter\u00e9 se \u0159\u00edk\u00e1 postvoln\u00ed. Titchener \u0159\u00edk\u00e1, \u017ee postvoln\u00ed pozornost nen\u00ed \u201etla\u010dena\u201c (jako je to u t\u00e9 voln\u00ed), ale je \u201eta\u017eena\u201c z\u00e1jmem. T\u00e1hne n\u00e1s z\u00e1jem, nebo zv\u011bdavost. Je n\u011bco jin\u00e9ho tla\u010dit na pilu a \u0159\u00edkat d\u011btem, d\u00e1vejte pozor, a n\u011bco \u00fapln\u011b jin\u00e9ho je, kdy\u017e m\u011b to zaj\u00edm\u00e1, kdy\u017e jsem zv\u011bdav\u00fd. A to je pozornost, kter\u00e1 se nach\u00e1z\u00ed ve h\u0159e. „<\/p>\n\n\n\n

„To, co nenaslouch\u00e1, co neust\u00e1le tla\u010d\u00ed na pilu a chce v\u0161echno p\u0159ev\u00e1lcovat, je v psychologick\u00e9 terminologii ego. Nebo sp\u00ed\u0161, nezral\u00e9 ego, abych nek\u0159ivdil mo\u017enosti, \u017ee na\u0161e ego je zral\u00e9, proto\u017ee a\u0165 zral\u00e9 \u010di nezral\u00e9, ego k n\u00e1m neodd\u011bliteln\u011b pat\u0159\u00ed. Tedy nezral\u00e9 ego jako cosi sebest\u0159edn\u00e9ho a z\u00e1rove\u0148 trochu zamindr\u00e1kovan\u00e9ho, nejist\u00e9ho (o tomhle egu je psychologie Alfreda Adlera). Kdy\u017e jsem nejist\u00fd, m\u00e1m pocit, \u017ee mus\u00edm v\u0161echno re\u017e\u00edrovat, nebo p\u0159\u00edmo p\u0159ev\u00e1lcovat.“<\/p>\n\n\n\n

„T\u0159eba te\u010f se \u0159e\u0161\u00ed dezinformace, jak proti nim bojovat. Ale mo\u017en\u00e1 by se sp\u00ed\u0161 na\u0161lo \u0159e\u0161en\u00ed, kdybychom tomu \u0159\u00edkali p\u016fsoben\u00ed. Proti dezinformac\u00edm nesta\u010d\u00ed bojovat pouze a jen pravdiv\u00fdmi informacemi, ale mus\u00edme proti nim bojovat n\u011b\u010d\u00edm, co p\u016fsob\u00ed. Pravdiv\u00e1 informace, pokud nep\u016fsob\u00ed, je stra\u0161n\u011b slab\u00e1 proti dob\u0159e p\u016fsob\u00edc\u00ed l\u017ei. „<\/p>\n\n\n\n

“ Sv\u011bt du\u0161e je sv\u011bt obraz\u016f. Oboj\u00ed, vn\u011bj\u0161\u00ed i vnit\u0159n\u00ed obrazy mocn\u011b p\u016fsob\u00ed. V t\u011bch obrazech je du\u0161e doma. Samoz\u0159ejm\u011b z\u00e1vis\u00ed na tom, jak\u00e9 ty obrazy jsou. Proto\u017ee m\u016f\u017eeme \u017e\u00edt v obrazech ohro\u017een\u00ed a strachu. M\u016f\u017eeme si zobrazit sv\u011bt, kter\u00fd je \u00fapln\u011b paranoidn\u00ed, kde v\u0161ichni po n\u00e1s jdou. Nebo si du\u0161e m\u016f\u017ee vytvo\u0159it sv\u011bt naprosto depresivn\u00ed. \u010cili p\u00e9\u010de o du\u0161i je p\u00e9\u010de o obrazy du\u0161e. Du\u0161i lze l\u00e9\u010dit obrazy, ale du\u0161e m\u016f\u017ee taky jin\u00fdm typem obraz\u016f onemocn\u011bt. „<\/p>\n\n\n\n

„Pokud je slovo pedagogika od \u201ev\u00e9sti n\u011bkoho n\u011bkam\u201c, tak bohu\u017eel mus\u00edm konstatovat, \u017ee vzd\u011bl\u00e1v\u00e1n\u00ed vede \u010dlov\u011bka k odpojenosti. Od du\u0161e i od t\u011bla. Psycholog Zimbardo napsal knihu, kter\u00e1 se jmenuje Odpojen\u00fd mu\u017e. Zp\u016fsob, jak\u00fdm jsme vzd\u011bl\u00e1v\u00e1n\u00ed, vede (\u010dasto, ne v\u017edy a ne ve v\u0161ech ohledech) k odpojenosti. Jsme odpojeni od sebe sama i od vztah\u016f mezi sebou.“<\/p>\n\n\n\n

„Opravdu si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee plat\u00ed, jak se kdysi \u0159\u00edkalo: kdo si hraje, nezlob\u00ed. Tak bych \u0159ekl, \u017ee kdo tvo\u0159\u00ed, tak se daleko m\u00e9n\u011b tr\u00e1p\u00ed.“<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Rozhovor si m\u016f\u017eete p\u0159e\u010d\u00edst i Blog Dialog<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Dialogick\u00e9 jedn\u00e1n\u00ed je specifick\u00fd zp\u016fsob aktivn\u00ed imaginace Rozhovor s Doc. PhDr. Vladim\u00edrem Chrzem, Ph.D. z Psychologick\u00e9ho \u00fastavu Akademie v\u011bd \u010cR, pedagogem, v\u00fdzkumn\u00edkem a psychologem. S Vladim\u00edrem jsem se potkala na Kated\u0159e autorsk\u00e9 tvorby a pedagogiky DAMU. Chodili jsme spolu k Vysko\u010dilovi na Dialogick\u00e9 jedn\u00e1n\u00ed. On jako psycholog a j\u00e1 jako divadeln\u00edk a pedagog. Pak jsme … Read more<\/a><\/p>","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":2456,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"episode_type":"","audio_file":"","podmotor_file_id":"","podmotor_episode_id":"","cover_image":"","cover_image_id":"","duration":"","filesize":"","filesize_raw":"","date_recorded":"","explicit":"","block":"","itunes_episode_number":"","itunes_title":"","itunes_season_number":"","itunes_episode_type":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2455","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-nezarazene"],"aioseo_notices":[],"aioseo_head":"\n\t\t\n\t\n\t\n\t\n\t\n\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t